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Well, I'd be tempering any hopes from the beginning. Sometimes a tulpa isn't capable of providing a fulfilling sense of companionship depending on the nature of their relationship with their host. I know that wasn't true in my case.
3:04 AM
The variance between the effects on the person engaging in this practice is so wide that perhaps one just has to be sure that they're not going to have a negative result and that the potential benefits are worth the time investment.
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message if you need my new disc 5/10/2018 3:40 AM
so i just got involved w this and i have no idea where to start with creating my tulpa
3:40 AM
pretty much lost to say the least
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Read a guide
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Start .... what ivy said
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Like Kiahs or Tulpas
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@message if you need my new disc Learn as much as you can about what tulpas are first.
3:41 AM
Take some time deciding whether you want to actually make one or not.
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message if you need my new disc 5/10/2018 3:41 AM
what are kiahs?
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kiah is a user who wrote a guide
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message if you need my new disc 5/10/2018 3:41 AM
ah ok
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If you have any specific questions or topics you are curious about, feel free to ask.
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...are they still around? (edited)
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I took 5 months to make the decision from the time I learned about tulpas, that day being a few days ago :P (edited)
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I also recommended Piano's guide
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I forget how long I took after learning about tulpas to start
3:42 AM
probably not more than a few weeks, to be fair
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Not before I read multiple guides/articles as well
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Who dude
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message if you need my new disc 5/10/2018 3:43 AM
i saw a link to the tulpa.info site in a server and that's how im here
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do you wanna ask old people around here questions
3:43 AM
I wanna answer new people questions
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Indeed. Take your time to decide - it is a decision that you can make at any time, but not something you can really decide to undo.
3:43 AM
Some may disagree with that on a technical basis, but it should be treated as such.
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I think there is a large amount of opportunity to un... one step ahead of me
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I know.
3:44 AM
Certainly, once it gets beyond a creative writing exercise (for most people that treat it as such), it isn't something that can be undone in any practical manner.
3:45 AM
Or practice in putting thoughts into words, alternatively.
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I look at it more like a very very shallow hill, both ways
3:45 AM
you go up slow, you go down slow, except once you get too high you get stuck going up and up and up
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@Reguile He stepped down as admin. I didn't know him elsewhere so I don't know if he is
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Indeed.
3:46 AM
In any case, @message if you need my new disc, is there anything you would like to know?
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ask away friendo
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message if you need my new disc 5/10/2018 3:47 AM
if i do go along with creating a tulpa and reach where they start speaking to me, i would personally freak out. any idea how to deal with that ?
3:47 AM
why would you freak dude
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Most people "freak out" in some way.
3:47 AM
That said, typically if you have gotten to the point of actually making a tulpa, you should have prepared yourself for that to happen.
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like excited or like nah kill it freak out
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You have to be prepared for the unexpected.
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message if you need my new disc 5/10/2018 3:47 AM
excited mostly
3:47 AM
nah just be excited
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Go ahead and be excited. Prepare some party poppers if you must.
3:48 AM
Just, be aware that it can take some time given what a tulpa actually is.
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message if you need my new disc 5/10/2018 3:49 AM
does the amount of time depend on any factors?
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time put into it
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and just
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some people make one faster or shorter
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your mindset
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never know
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yeah some people do it more naturally
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took me over a year to make one talk consistently.
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Primarily, the amount of effort and variety of experiences you give them.
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i hear of some talking in less than a month regularly
3:50 AM
so its just kinda however long i guess
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"First speech" can certainly happen in less than a month.
3:50 AM
Consistent and clearly conscious speech often takes much longer.
3:51 AM
...not always, but typically.
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message if you need my new disc 5/10/2018 3:51 AM
really does sound like you're raising a child huh
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kinda
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There are similarities.
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in that you wanna give them both experience but not too much at once
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personally I had Allun saying a few small pharses mainly "it's okay" within 10 minutes, it took just short of a month for her to form full sentences and she still keeps them pretty simple short sentences
3:52 AM
I like to describe it as raising a child with access to your memories and your maturity
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Indeed. They do have access to your chronological memories (albeit with a different perspective) and more clear access to procedural and semantic memory ("how" to do things and "what" things are).
3:54 AM
However, the context of that knowledge is not there yet.
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like its cool
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cause if my tulpa remembers something from me
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he can like
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take away a different lesson from me
3:55 AM
which makes tulpas pretty useful in growing as a person or something
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just out of curiosity, but can tulpas dream?
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In what context?
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Our body dreams, it is usually from my POV, since I am the primary fronter.
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In our case, we dream. That said, when we dream it isn't particularly divided by identity - it is more just "me", without specifying. Whether that is simply us individually not noting our own identities or us both experiencing it simultaneously isn't really discernable.
10:39 PM
...that said, I also rarely dream, whereas Skye dreams more frequently when she has slept.
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We have bipolar disorder with psychotic features.
10:45 PM
we made tulpas Harleen before that started
10:46 PM
but I was made during it, when we weren't on any meds, and were have psychotic breaks frequently
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I would wait for medicines and stuff to settle you down some, but I wouldn't not do something because of a disability.
10:47 PM
You should do everything that you still can, and not let that hold you back.
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But I still would play it safe and wait for the meds and shit.
10:48 PM
My host actually blamed me when I was young, for all these things appearing so strange and scary and shit and all that right as I was made.
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I personally would not recommend making a tulpa if you do have mental health issues - specifically ones that are potentially enhanced or otherwise more directly related. For example, people who have schizophrenia or existing DID.
10:51 PM
That said, if you are making a tulpa and have other mild mental health problems, they can be helpful. They simply should not be considered any kind of replacement for actual mental health care.
10:52 PM
Simply keep in mind that, using the same brain, physical anomalies in the brain causing these traits will affect them.
10:53 PM
...to some extent.
10:54 PM
The way the issue expresses itself may be different, but think of it this way - the tulpa is using the same hardware, the same brain.
10:56 PM
Quite a few are - typically the more severe ones are, to my knowledge.
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that question has no simple answer.
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That said, it couldn't necessarily be determined without some actual physical scan.
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If you have a mental illness that causes you to have a warped sense of reality I would'nt recommend it. I don't know how bad your psycosis(?) is so I guess it's up to you
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Indeed.
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I advise against excluding people for any reason, citing lack of evidence, and prejudice.
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I would not recommend making a tulpa if one can be considered to have significantly impaired judgement.
11:01 PM
There may be a general lack of evidence, but I do not say this out of discrimination - rather out of a sense of safety.
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